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Hammer Mapping
Celadon
2010 Apr 29 • 1
HEy guys, need some help. I did look up the FAQ but didn't rly help.. =|

This is my error:

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hlcsg v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: hlcsg -nowadtextures lundheim
Entering lundheim.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
clip hull type [ legacy ] [ legacy ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ off ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
nullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: plane with no normal
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file http://www.zhlt.info/common-mapping-problems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 3: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 4: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 5: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 2), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 2), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (65, -424, 2), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 3: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 4: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 5: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 2), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 2), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (65, -448, 2), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 5, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 3: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 4: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 3: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 4: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 5: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 58), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 6), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 6), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 5: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (136, -424, 6), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 6), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 6), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (136, -448, 6), texture FIFTIES_DSK5A
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 1: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 10, Brush 4: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
(0.13 seconds)

----- END hlcsg -----



hlbsp v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: hlbsp lundheim
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file lundheim.log for the cause.

----- END hlbsp -----



hlvis v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: hlvis lundheim
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file lundheim.log for the cause.

----- END hlvis -----



hlrad v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: hlrad lundheim
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file lundheim.log for the cause.

----- END hlrad -----


"""


When i do the "Go to brush number" it says that the brush does not exists.

I am making a rly big map and i have done alot allready, i rly don't wanna redo it.. =(

Thx in advance!
    2010 Apr 29 at 15:26
Rockbomb
Dog fucker

2009 Nov 13 • 1849
-190 ₧
I found this in like 3 minutes of googling...
http://www.slackiller.com/tommy14/errors.htm#plane
    2010 Apr 29 at 15:42
sprinkles

Chrome Whore
2009 Sep 6 • 2431
10 ₧
From what I could see you have:
Plane with no normal
Coplanar plane
brush outside world

The easiest is brush outside world.
You either have a brush over the edge or too close to the edge.

Coplanar plane means you have a plane with more than one face.

Plane with no normal means that it really isn't a plane, its either a line or a point.


For the brush outside world you can simply move the brush in.

The plane with no normal you need to delete and start over.

The coplanar plane you can fix by deleting the extra plane.

P.S.
Coplanar plane and plane with no normal are almost always caused by vertex manipulation.
...then I got some ap, and shot a big ass lazar at everyone.
    2010 Apr 29 at 15:56
Mate de Vita
Kelli

2008 Oct 4 • 2397
159 ₧
sprinkles said:
From what I could see you have:
Plane with no normal
Coplanar plane
brush outside world

The easiest is brush outside world.
You either have a brush over the edge or too close to the edge.

Coplanar plane means you have a plane with more than one face.

Plane with no normal means that it really isn't a plane, its either a line or a point.


For the brush outside world you can simply move the brush in.

The plane with no normal you need to delete and start over.

The coplanar plane you can fix by deleting the extra plane.

P.S.
Coplanar plane and plane with no normal are almost always caused by vertex manipulation.

All true but the brush outside world error can also be caused by VM.
...and that's the bottom line because Mate de Vita said so.

Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past.
    2010 Apr 30 at 02:12
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

Find the Hole II Participation Medal
2007 Oct 19 • 5258
57,583 ₧
I think in my FAQ post I talk about an exploderised brush, if I don't, I should :D
Everyone stares when you walk in the room, they stare when you go....
    2010 May 1 at 08:35
Rockbomb
Dog fucker

2009 Nov 13 • 1849
-190 ₧
Down Rodeo said:
exploderised

I thought that was an awesome word, so I googled it to see if it was real. And SJ forums came up on the second page
    2010 May 1 at 08:45
the_cloud_system
polly pushy pants

2008 Aug 1 • 2788
-6 ₧
some very noobish questions - SUPERJER FORUM
25 posts - 4 authors - Last post: Jan 8, 2009
http://www.superjer.com/forum/cs_wont_start_after_i_compile.php ..... Nah, that looks like an exploderised brush. ...
www.superjer.com/forum/some_very_noobish_questions-7.php - Cached
moo moo moo, moo.
    2010 May 1 at 08:54
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

Find the Hole II Participation Medal
2007 Oct 19 • 5258
57,583 ₧
I'm not sure where I saw it, actually. Or where I first heard it. It is good though :D
Everyone stares when you walk in the room, they stare when you go....
    2010 May 1 at 08:55
Alex001

2010 Jun 26 • 33
If you have a "brush outside world", you can open your map by hammer, and press ctrl+shift+G. A window "go to brush" appears. Then go to your's de_project.log and look at your entity and brush number that outside world. Type the numbers in the window, and press OK. The incorrect brush is marked red now, just delete it and create another.
Don't use my style !
    2010 Jun 26 at 03:51

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