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nectar
2010 Mar 8 • 232
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hi guys, i was searching about the magnetic induction of Faraday and i was thinking of making a permanent spining CD with magnets, like something like this:
Explanation:
what i wanted is like to make a super simple design that if i put that magnet it will start repeling the others so the CD with magnets will spin forever without stoping :D.
I love cows and monkeys including cookies :D
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2010 Nov 24
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the_cloud_system
polly pushy pants
2008 Aug 1 • 2972
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thats cool
Samuel adams, always the white choice.
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2010 Nov 24
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5406
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2027
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Also won't the magnet demagnetize each other if you keep them in each others presence?
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2010 Nov 24
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5406
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2010 Nov 24
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phoenix_r
2009 May 13 • 813
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Perpetual motion?!
¡Science!
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2010 Dec 7
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eDan Co.
Mighty Typist
2007 Sep 24 • 2917
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If you put this device in a frictionless vacuum, the sum of forces applied to the disc will be 0. Look at your diagram: the magnet at 3 o'clock is doing nothing, the magnet at 1 o'clock is pushing CCW at a force of F(N), and the magnet at 5 o'clock is pulling CW at a force of F(N), etc etc etc with all magnets.
Basically the magnets do nothing. Maybe add mass to the disc, but nothing more.
May contain traces of invisible text.
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2010 Dec 7
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SRAW
Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2383
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Mythbusters have proven that perpectual motion machines can't exist.
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2010 Dec 7
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Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse
2007 Oct 19 • 5406
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I'm not sure that that's provable. On the other hand perpetual motion violates lots of different laws of physics.
Your machine wouldn't produce motion. It could store it rather inefficiently, but where's the point in that?
It would be instructive to look at your setup and one that is the same except with the magnets removed. The balance of forces will be the same (as Edan said, zero).
And, of course, if you used it to induct a current it would slow down. It's odd but you can view it as a kind of friction: the electrons individually can be pushed around but when there's lots it can be a surprising force. If you have a hand generator you can feel the difference by hooking up lights of different wattages.
I like how I've said the same thing over and over in this thread in marginally different ways.
I give a little into the moment like I'm standing at the edge (I know)
That no-one's gonna turn me 'round
Just one more step, I could let go
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2010 Dec 7
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eDan Co.
Mighty Typist
2007 Sep 24 • 2917
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SRAW said: Mythbusters have proven that perpectual motion machines can't exist.
Physicists knew that all along. Mythbusters showed it on TV, explaining it like you would to an eight-year-old.
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2010 Dec 7
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SRAW
Rocket Man
2007 Nov 6 • 2383
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I don't like how this jewish atheist thinks I didn't know that.
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2010 Dec 7
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SuperJer
Websiteman
2005 Mar 20 • 3884
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nectar: Is there any particular reason why the arrows in your diagram go counter-clockwise?
Couldn't they just as well go clockwise?
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2010 Dec 7
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eDan Co.
Mighty Typist
2007 Sep 24 • 2917
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aaronjer said: People are stupid.
With an average IQ of 100, yes, they are. 
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2010 Dec 8
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Mate de Vita
Kelli
2008 Oct 4 • 2429
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aaronjer said: In general and out of this context: What's up with people thinking less of someone's abilities just because they don't like them? Almost everyone does that. It's stupid. People are stupid.
You're judging this shit the wrong way. People don't like other people whose abilities they think less of.
...and that's the bottom line because Mate de Vita said so.
Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past.
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2010 Dec 9
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Kelli
2010 Jan 27 • 21
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It's true. AaronJer has played Civilization with me. On multiple occasions, at that. That's tolerance.
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2010 Dec 10
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Mate de Vita
Kelli
2008 Oct 4 • 2429
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Kelli said: It's true. AaronJer has played Civilization with me. On multiple occasions, at that. That's tolerance.
Yeah, but you are aaronjer, so it doesn't count.
...and that's the bottom line because Mate de Vita said so.
Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past.
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phoenix_r
2009 May 13 • 813
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Mate de Vita said: Kelli said: It's true. AaronJer has played Civilization with me. On multiple occasions, at that. That's tolerance.
Yeah, but you are aaronjer, so it doesn't count. Who isn't, these days?
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2010 Dec 10
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Mate de Vita
Kelli
2008 Oct 4 • 2429
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phoenix_r said: Mate de Vita said: Kelli said: It's true. AaronJer has played Civilization with me. On multiple occasions, at that. That's tolerance.
Yeah, but you are aaronjer, so it doesn't count. Who isn't, these days? I think aaronjer is defined as anyone other than himself.
So anyone who isn't aaronjer is in fact aaronjer.
...and that's the bottom line because Mate de Vita said so.
Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past.
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2010 Dec 10
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phoenix_r
2009 May 13 • 813
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Mate de Vita said: I think aaronjer is defined as anyone other than himself.
So anyone who isn't aaronjer is in fact aaronjer.
Isn't this a paradox?
1. !ato->ato
2. ato->!ato
3. goto 1
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2010 Dec 10
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aaronjer
*****'n Admin
2005 Mar 21 • 3945
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No, it's not a paradox, it's just wrong. We've been over this! 
But seriously. Trying to get Kelli to attack an enemy city with more than one unit at a time? Impossible. At least it's impossible without a complex system of puppetry to control every movement from afar.
And you'd better show up at Outback tonight! With your car that you may or may not be old enough to drive. I can't remember how old you are.
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NatureJay
SJA: Commander of Ruthless Abuse
2005 Mar 22 • 1532
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How the fuck did this post last two weeks without an ICP reference?
100% natural, no antibiotics, and bloodgrass-fed
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2010 Dec 10
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Rockbomb
Dog fucker (but in a good way now)
2009 Nov 13 • 2027
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NatureJay said: How the fuck did this post last two weeks without an ICP reference?
I was wondering the same thing, I've been waiting for it.
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2010 Dec 10
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the_cloud_system
polly pushy pants
2008 Aug 1 • 2972
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Samuel adams, always the white choice.
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2010 Dec 10
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