# Riddle truck

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SolidKAYOS

2007 Jun 24 • 84
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This riddle took my dad 6 months to figure out an I still haven't!>_>
It evolves math so good luck math wizards.

Three men walked into a hotel and ordered 3 room for each.The LCerk said the rooms were 10 bucks each.The men ended up taking the rooms for a total of 30 bucks.

Later the manager felt bad for the price of the rooms and decided to give them half back.(and its not even half >_<)He gave room service 5 bucks and told him to split it between the three men.

The man wondered how he was suppose to split 5 bucks between 3 men.He had an idea!

He would do this:

Take two for himself.
Give 1 buck back to each man.
Now here the riddle

This should all add up to 30 correct?
Original: 10+10+10=30
Now: 9+9+9=27

Were did the other dollar go!?
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Down Rodeo said:
Dammit, this was the one place that didn't have this, but noooooo, molkman pisses all over that
 ≡ 2008 Jun 21 at 08:55 PDT — Ed. 2008 Jun 21 at 13:41 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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The guy didn't count himself. He took two, and then gave everyone (including himself) one. So he took 3\$ while his buddies got only 1\$.

It was hard for me to understand the riddle because of things like "3 rooms each for 3 people is three rooms". So I may have not understood the riddle correctly.
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 21 at 11:00 PDT — Ed. 2008 Jun 21 at 11:03 PDT
SolidKAYOS

2007 Jun 24 • 84
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Ill give a hint

Its not an easy problem.Like i said took my dad 6 months to figure out.

Look back on the story.

They originally paid 10 dollars a piece correct?(30 bucks)
They all got 1 dollar back and the service took two.
So they originally paid 9 bucks a piece???Hmmmm!?
Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
Down Rodeo said:
Dammit, this was the one place that didn't have this, but noooooo, molkman pisses all over that
 ≡ 2008 Jun 21 at 13:57 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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I thought I didn't understand the riddle, now I'm sure I don't understand it.
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 21 at 14:27 PDT — Ed. 2008 Jun 21 at 14:27 PDT
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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It shouldn't add up to thirty. Since the men got 3 dollars back they each paid an equivalent of \$9, plus the three that they were given equals \$30. Another way of looking at it is that each person got some money (\$1.25 on average) but you have to treat 'em as separate equations.

By the way, was Edan's solved? If so I don't get it.
 ≡ 2008 Jun 21 at 15:26 PDT — Ed. 2008 Jun 21 at 15:27 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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Mine was not solved, but you were close.
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 01:58 PDT
SolidKAYOS

2007 Jun 24 • 84
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Yes its suppose to add up to thirty!
Look back on the story.They each paid only 9 bucks in the end right!?

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
Down Rodeo said:
Dammit, this was the one place that didn't have this, but noooooo, molkman pisses all over that
 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 10:17 PDT — Ed. 2008 Jun 22 at 10:18 PDT
SOGRURR
Chronic Masochist
2008 May 24 • 112
eDan Co. said:
Havokk Edge said:
11 lied.

If 11 lied, that means there are 11 people saying the truth.
11 people said:
There are no more than 11 truth-tellers in this room.

AND I kinda gave away the answer.

Solved it >.<
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 10:55 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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How many lied?
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 11:16 PDT
Sloth

2008 May 18 • 543
NO ONE!
 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 12:05 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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What?! The first guy said "There are no truth tellers", this is like saying "I am lying".
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 12:07 PDT
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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How very true.

Havokk - let us look at it this way. The guys are effectively paying for 3 rooms and the help. Split equally they each pay 9 and a third dollars while the help takes two. So: 9.333 + 9.333 + 9.333 = 28 plus the help's two and we have 30.
 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 14:24 PDT — Ed. 2008 Jun 22 at 14:31 PDT
SolidKAYOS

2007 Jun 24 • 84
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CORRECT!
Your not so much of a dumb ass after all.
Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
Down Rodeo said:
Dammit, this was the one place that didn't have this, but noooooo, molkman pisses all over that
 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 15:18 PDT
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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And there was me bullshitting my way through that. Seriously, I didn't think that was right.
 ≡ 2008 Jun 22 at 15:22 PDT
CornJer
Metal does cocaine.

2005 Mar 21 • 1531
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Well lets do the math...

if we have the the equation

12-(n-1)<=l

where l is the number of liars according to the nth person, and n is from 1-12. n-1 gives the number of truthtellers according to that person. 12 minus that gives the number of liars, or l. l always remains less than 13.

remember that thats no more than n-1, so we must assume that the number of liars can be greater.

Mathmatically this spells out to...

First Person
12-(1-1)<=l
12<=l

Second Person
12-(2-1)<=l
11<=l

Third Person
12-(3-1)<=l
10<=l

4th Person
12-(4-1)<=l
9<=1

5th Person
12-(5-1)<=l
8<=l

6th Person
12-(6-1)<=l
7<=1

7th person
12-(7-1)<=l
6<=l

8th person
12-(8-1)<=l
5<=l

9th person
12-(9-1)<=l
4<=l

10th person
12-(10-1)<=l
3<=l

11th person
12-(11-1)<=l
2<=l

12th person
12-(12-1)<=l
1<=l

now not all of these can be true... so which ones do we eliminate is the question?
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 09:27 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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I like the way you wrote it out, but there is not need. Think of the implications of "the first guy is saying he is a liar".
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 11:55 PDT
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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So there are therefore 11 truth-tellers in the room. I thought it had been answered.
 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 12:17 PDT
xXJigsaw23Xx
IS what she said.

2007 Oct 21 • 912
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I solved this riddle a long time ago on page 1
But even then, I had my honor. The largest Banora White tree grew on a wealthy man's estate. It was rumored, that those apples tasted the best, but I never stole from that tree, because the wealthy man's son, was my friend...
 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 12:29 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 12:35 PDT
xXJigsaw23Xx
IS what she said.

2007 Oct 21 • 912
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what is it then
But even then, I had my honor. The largest Banora White tree grew on a wealthy man's estate. It was rumored, that those apples tasted the best, but I never stole from that tree, because the wealthy man's son, was my friend...
 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 13:04 PDT
eDan Co.
Mighty Typist

2007 Sep 24 • 2921
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We said the first guy is a liar, that's for sure.
Now we say there is one liar and 11 truth-tellers. The second guys says there is no more than 1 truth-tellers, but we have 11!! So he is a liar too.

The process continues until you reach half and half - 6 liars and 6 truth-tellers.

THERE!
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 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 16:45 PDT
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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Ah, smart. I might have got that eventually but you know, maybe not.
 ≡ 2008 Jun 23 at 17:07 PDT
SolidKAYOS

2007 Jun 24 • 84
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Down Rodeo said:
And there was me bullshitting my way through that. Seriously, I didn't think that was right.

The answer is around 9.33.You was just so close i just gave it to you.
Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
Down Rodeo said:
Dammit, this was the one place that didn't have this, but noooooo, molkman pisses all over that
 ≡ 2008 Jun 24 at 03:30 PDT
Down Rodeo
Cap'n Moth of the Firehouse

2007 Oct 19 • 5486
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I felt that was the easiest way of saying "nine and a third".
 ≡ 2008 Jun 24 at 04:09 PDT
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